What Servers would you like to see here

Mini_Jebus

nelly_2202 that's what I loved about the old server. You'd hop on and there was always something for everyone to do, whether it was working on the technical stuff, building a house or helping expand the village

Crazy_Muffins

I think we could put vanilla MC on the windows physical server we have at stoners. Less demanding for performance.

If I'm on tonight I'll get one setup! Keep the ideas coming!

Stoner772

I was about yo say i could put a vanilla up on a Linux VM. but i guess the physical server needs something to do.

Crazy_Muffins

Stoner772 That's the thing! Even though Linux seems to be way better on performance, at least it is vanil AND it gives the physical a use. =)

Nitrousoxide

I don't know if this would work, but a factorio server? Would be interesting to try out.

Crazy_Muffins

Nitrousoxide We've had one briefly in the past. Down side is if you don't get on and play as much as one or two others you get left so far behind.

That said, it's light weight. We can certainly Chuck one up if anyone has a desire for it!

KustoM

Maybe a Gmod server with the old Lanbox mod pack? Or as Nitrousoxide said a factorio server would be cool as well

jpressy

God I can't wait to move into my new house and have access to my desktop computer it's been quite some time, a vanilla Minecraft server sounds fun 😁

nelly_2202

I am going to put forward a few suggestions for consideration if we do go for a vanilla Minecraft server. Mostly for quality of life changes.

First one is looking at some data packs, such as some of the ones from this site (https://vanillatweaks.net/picker/datapacks/) I like the idea of some of these, like 'dragon drops','multiplayer sleep' and 'double shulkers'.

The other is maybe doing research in to a seed, so most of the biomes are a respectable distance from the main build area.

Crazy_Muffins

nelly_2202 I'm assuming the DataPack route is mostly server side modding, and you're recommending Quality Of Life for the most part rather than modding itself? Doesnt sound like a bad idea at all, get rid of some of the questionable omissions from something like MC after so many years :p

Stoner772

nelly_2202 I had a quick look at the data pack list and Player Graves might be a good one as well to add.

nelly_2202

Crazy_Muffins yeah, pretty much. Not suggesting any new blocks. Really they would change the mob drops too be a little more friendly to a multi player server.

Crazy_Muffins

Stoner772 ,KustoM ,nelly_2202 ,blaknite
I'm sold on it! It'll give the physical something to do, and i feel like being vanil, it'll run well enough on that box that we can let it roll as a long term setup.

Stay tuned for info when i get to it!

blaknite

nelly_2202 keen for anything that means I can pop in without having to install mods or learn the current flavour of the month. I’m too slow for that haha. Quality of life server side mods sounds great.

Furcas

Now here's something that might be worth considering, now that the Bedrock edition is mostly caught up to the Java version, do we want to have a look at playing that version?

Crazy_Muffins

Furcas Is there a reason/benefit to w/e bedrock is?

Stoner772

Is that the windows 10 Edition. Would everyone have to re buy it? I can't play it anyway because i am on linux now.

Furcas

It's the Windows 10 version, so it's built on something that's not Java for starters (C++ from memory). Mod support isn't there yet, but there a plenty of server hosting tools. Anyone who's brought Java before Oct, 2018 has a free copy of the Bedrock edition for Win10, and it's also cross compatible with all other bedrock editions excluding PS4 because Sony is terrible like that. UI is a little more refined, with build in recipe lookup, although I believe Java has that now. The versions that work are FireOS, Android, FireTV, GearVR, iOS, Win10, WinMobile, Xbox One, and Switch.

Downsides is that it's Windows 10, Skins are DLC, no Linux version, and you lose the ability to mod the client, as well as anyone who hasn't brought java before the cut off date don't get this version for free.

The main benefits is the more stable platform, more variety in server hosting platforms, obviously the cross compatibility, with PS4 rumored to be joining that soon, more variety in textures and animations, and the older combat system is still in place. While it may not be a plus to use the Xbox app on Win10, it is easier to join multiplayer games now.

Also I should note that advanced Redstone builds in Java don't work in Bedrock, as Bedrock's redstone systems have been improved so things would work as how you expect them to, but it also removes things like 1-tick pulse sticky piston block shoving or block update detectors (Not that it matters since Observers now exist). Basically, don't expect to build a compact red stone CPU or something like that.

Edit: Also apparently the mobile version of bedrock got ported to Linux at some point here https://mcpelauncher.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html

As long as that didn't impact Stoner too much, I'd be keep at least investigating if it's a viable option, but I get it if we don't want to switch. Change for the sake of change isn't worth it if it limits who we can have in it.

Crazy_Muffins

Furcas Seems neat but it doesn't seem to add much that would be missed from a vanilla setup as is.

I'll check in to it, but since we are self hosting and even Java vanilla isn't too bad on performance, it may be simply the smoothest option.

I'll take a gander none the less !

Edit:
If I'm honest, I'm not seeing anything that tempts me to bedrock. It's a touch/mobile UI that was only in recent times updated more for mouse. No kidding still means if we chose to change anything further down the line it's a pain.

I'm open to pointers, just not seeing a benefit overall.

Furcas

Which Platform are you looking at?
Edit: Just checked with the Win10 version, there's a UI toggle for Classic or Pocket

Crazy_Muffins

Furcas none specifically, most of those are relatively new changes. But the point is, I'm just not seeing a reason to go with it. 🙂

It would prevent us easily adding mods down the track should it go that way, might as well stick with the version that everyone has. It'll run on par honestly, being that it's vanilla after all.